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Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Tue Feb 4 13:03:46 2014

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From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:03:04 -0500
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org



> On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:52 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
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>> Those that are up in arms about this stuff seem to not be the ones asking=

>> the vendors for features and fixes.
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> Like I said, the "tier 1's" can't be the source of the solution until
> they stop being part of the problem.

This is the attitude that I've seen elsewhere that is devoid of any meat. As=
 I said before, we hit a big preventing the ability to do this even if we wa=
nted to. The impact is drop all traffic or permit all in that case. If you w=
ere my customer which would you decide?=20

Ask your vendors for these features. Ask them to fix the bugs. The ball roll=
s uphill here and it's in their lap. Blaming the carriers is wrongheaded and=
 putting it where it doesn't belong in many cases. Happy to discuss offline.=
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- Jared=


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