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RE: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Roche)
Thu Oct 24 08:10:39 2013

Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:10:23 -0400
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLabBf7wMm+xx9EyeK-uhyTgce+22HBwve3T37eFDFaKCmg@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Sam Roche" <sroche@lakelandnetworks.com>
To: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>,
 "JRC NOC" <nospam-nanog@jensenresearch.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

We had a similar issue happen and modified our BGP peering to use one =
BGP session per provider, as we had multiple neighbours for one of our =
peers.=20

It seems to have resolved this particular issue for us.

I would love to hear how others are actively probing their peers =
networks using an NMS to verify connectivity.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.lists@gmail.com]=20
Sent: October-23-13 11:06 PM
To: JRC NOC
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:40 PM, JRC NOC =
<nospam-nanog@jensenresearch.com> wrote:
> Is this just an unavoidable issue with scaling large networks?

nope... sounds like (to me at least) the forwarding plane and control =
plane are non-congruent in your provider's network :( so as you said, if =
the forwarding-plane is dorked up between you and 'the rest of their =
netowrk', but the edge device you are connected to thinks next-hops for =
routes are still valid... oops :(

> Is it perhaps a known side effect of MPLS?

nope.

> Have we/they lost something important in the changeover to converged=20
> mutiprotocol networks?
> Is there a better way for us edge networks to achieve IP resiliency in =

> the current environment?

sadly I bet not, aside from active probing and disabling paths that are =
non-functional.



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