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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Thu Sep 19 18:29:43 2013

From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Ryan Harden <hardenrm@uchicago.edu>, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:29:28 +0000
In-Reply-To: <11F730430848354485CBED437DCBDBBF13CEC6A6@XM-MBX-02-PROD.ad.uchicago.edu>
Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not affec=
t my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and never l=
ook back. I'm asking..

Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their so=
ftware without destroying most last mile connectivity?

Who else has had traffic surges like this?
And who else has a Nanog strike team coming in screaming buy more bandwidth=
? ;)


Sent from my Mobile Device.


-------- Original message --------
From: Ryan Harden <hardenrm@uchicago.edu>
Date: 09/19/2013 3:04 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>
Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: iOS 7 update traffic



On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net> wrote:

> On 09/19/2013 12:06 PM, Ryan Harden wrote:
>> As a side note, how are some of you not aware of this? This has happened=
 with every single Apple OS update since the iPhone was released in 2007.
>
> The difference is there are now a "couple" more million devices out there=
 than there were in 2007. And in 2007 there was just the one phone, now you=
 have tablets and what have you.

The effect has been relatively the same regardless of how many iDevices the=
re are. Network Operators have seen spikes during Apple OS releases since t=
hey started. The only leeway I'll give you is that the original iPhone only=
 supported 802.11b. With .11n and someday .11ac, the ability for these devi=
ces to consume data at a faster rate is also increasing.

>
>> This isn't a new phenomenon. I realize some of you are too cool for Appl=
e
>
> Lame low ball remark, however I thought it was the opposite, Apple=3D=3Dc=
oolness?

This was in no way meant to be a lowball remark. But it doesn't take much s=
earching to find people exclaiming how they have zero Apple devices or how =
they don't pay attention to Apple's "iJunk". I assumed (probably mistakenly=
) that the lack of knowing this is going to happen roughly 2-3 times a year=
 was due to being 'too cool' to keep up with the stuff Apple puts out.

>
> Regards,
> Jeroen
>
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