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Re: iOS 7 update traffic

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Sep 19 18:09:14 2013

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <00d701ceb577$f78187c0$e6849740$@sstar.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:08:36 -0400
To: "John Souvestre" <johns@sstar.com>
Cc: 'NANOG' <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Sep 19, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "John Souvestre" <johns@sstar.com> wrote:

> Hi Jared.
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>> The attitude in this email I have encountered elsewhere.  Apple pays=20=

>> for bandwidth, customers pay for access. Not sure why their release=20=

>> strategy is so highly critiqued.
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> Because it impacts other, non-Apple customers.  Or, it costs the ISP =
more
> (passed through to all customers) to add capacity to handle an =
infrequent peak
> load.
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> Question/suggestion:  Could Apple perhaps shift their release to a =
Saturday
> morning?  I would think that this would go a long way to diluting the =
peak.
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> John
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>     John Souvestre - New Orleans LA - (504) 454-0899


I think there's a lot that could be done when looking at how to shift =
this.

I've seen one other carrier privately talk to me about the impact and =
possible impacts to their network.  Most of these are folks (along with =
warren) who are worried about their RF budgets and these event traffic, =
or even just the nightly traffic peaks.

I have advised some in the past to put up caches, but the content owners =
also make it difficult to do this.  Apple sets very short expire values, =
and you end up with lots of "bad" settings.  Apple devices don't honor =
DHCP option 252 either.

This means you're stuck with a transparent proxy, (lets just say squid) =
putting itself in all tcp/80 traffic, or worse with lots of settings =
like: reload-into-ims override-expire etc..

This can solve some problems for those who have a 20-50Mb/s link to the =
internet and 50-100 customers each getting 1Mb/s+ on their CPE.

The results I've always seen are you need to find the strategic location =
to deploy these caches, capabilities or expand your network bandwidth, =
etc..

Based on all the recent people asking for a fast link in "X" location =
recently, I'm hoping there will be some better match-making happening =
soon.

- Jared=


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