[164696] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Sun Jul 28 00:34:50 2013
From: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 04:34:18 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAAAwwbX7NV9a=WMcK=2ncXwCo=7E3nq6h3X1VVo9z_EnJtpXpA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Jul 27, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
> In other words --- they would have passed a knowledge proof, showing
> they deserve the right to bypass "Level 1 call center drones".
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> E.g. to gain enhanced access in a world with 'an additional level of
> whois access'
> Step 1...
> 1. Submit an application with a nominal fee, explain to the RIR
> your periodic use of WHOIS, and how you would benefit from seeing
> 'special contacts' data; also including signed NDA regarding
> 'enhanced' extra contact information.
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> 2. Pay ongoing fees for criminal/spammer background checks, with
> results forwarded to the RIR.
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> 3. Show up at a RIR meeting, and sign the guest list -- or
> otherwise, get other members of the community to vouch for your
> character and technical capability, or, as an alternative show
> technical credentials in the form of an earned professional level
> networking industry certification requiring a performance-based lab
> assessment with advanced network troubleshooting of Layer 1 through 4
> on real equipment.
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> Those were some examples.
Jimmy -=20
If I understand you correctly, you are seeking establishment=20
of a database of private operator contact data; this data would
only made available to those who are "provably known" (using
some process TBD), who furthermore agree to its terms of use,=20
and potentially pay some nominal fee to offset its cost.=20
Based on my (admittedly dated) knowledge of service provider=20
operations, I can see how access to this "enhanced" data might=20
be a useful service, although I'm not certain that it being=20
based on "Whois" or the existing registry data is necessarily=20
required for the service to be useful.
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Also, while ARIN's purpose and mission could be said to include=20
such services, it's good to note that any organization whose=20
purposes include "areas in which inter-provider cooperation=20
can be mutually beneficial" would be also be a suitable home=20
for such an activity...
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
p.s. If in the end you feel strongly that _ARIN_ should be=20
offering such a service, please submit into the ARIN=20
Consultation and Suggestion Process.. (which doesn't=20
mean it will happen, only that we'll spec it out and=20
then put it in front of the community for consideration.)
<https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/acsp.html>=20
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