[164513] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keith Medcalf)
Sun Jul 14 12:07:25 2013
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:06:56 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CALgc3C4C=whkwfsnNjzV2LkEtzdDJMfZLZBGcV5AUw=u5XZKmQ@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on
> any device capable of doing it :)
Those that care did that many moons ago. The rest don't care.
Of course, if you do not have control of the endpoints doing the encryp=
tion (ie, the untrustworthy sucker is in the middle somewhere) then it =
does not matter.
Those who care maintain their own endpoints. Those that do not care us=
e gmail, office365, yahoo, and their carriers e-mail outsourced to one =
of the previously listed.
Given that this (spying and massive interception) has been common knowl=
edge since the inception of the Internet, and that it has particularly =
been known that the United States became particularly despotic and corr=
upt, in the last decade and a bit when it started hoovering up everythi=
ng they could get their suckers on (by creating massive cable cuts all =
of the US so they could install their taps), those that are still sendi=
ng traffic through the United States or using hosting services in the U=
nited States, without very strong encryption simple do not care.
Folks who use Office 365 simply do not care in the least about privacy,=
confidentiality or security. If they did they would not be using Offi=
ce 365. Or gmail. Or Yahoo. Or whatever they are using.
Since these people do not care, and they continue to use these services=
, and this has been a known circumstance for decades, what makes you th=
ink that "many people" will suddenly start to be concerned and migrate =
to more private/secure/confidential systems that have been available al=
l along but that they deliberately chose not to use?
