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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eugeniu Patrascu)
Sun Jul 14 04:30:58 2013
In-Reply-To: <lvnac5rn32o18mp0lp9s3fjc.1373705856171@email.android.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:42:50 +0300
From: Eugeniu Patrascu <eugen@imacandi.net>
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on any
device capable of doing it :)
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Warren Bailey <
wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com> wrote:
> The entire idea of prism is hitting tier 1 providers and mass
> communications providers. If they haven't rooted your exchange gear, they
> don't need to - your upstream providers entire stream is being copied. I
> can't think of many providers that couldn't be intercepted. When new
> transportation mediums arrive, who cares.. You already have a copy from
> their provider or peer.
>
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: ryangard@gmail.com
> Date: 07/12/2013 8:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To:
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to
> encrypted messages
>
>
> It wouldn't be. When the endpoint in question is compromised, there isn't
> any amount of tunneling or obscurity between point a and point b that will
> resolve it. Only thing you can do is change to a solution that you have
> more control over.
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:12:37
> To: Nick Khamis<symack@gmail.com>; Justin M. Streiner<
> streiner@cluebyfour.org>
> Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org<nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
> messages
>
> That doesn't sound like it would be effective in this instance?
>
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Nick Khamis <symack@gmail.com>
> Date: 07/12/2013 1:06 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to
> encrypted messages
>
>
> We are currently working on something right now where all connections
> are doing over an encrypted vpn. We are bringing SIP, email, search,
> and cloud to the tunnel.
>
> You can contact me off list if you would like to know more.
>
> Nick Khamis
>
>