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Re: Service provider T1/PPP question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike)
Fri Jun 28 20:28:57 2013

Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:26:18 -0700
From: Mike <mike-nanog@tiedyenetworks.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <9578293AE169674F9A048B2BC9A081B403C841BB@MUNPRDMBXA1.medline.com>
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On 06/28/2013 12:56 PM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
>
> I think this post seems like a flashback.  I would not consider a T-1 t=
o really be broadband anymore and it is pretty much limited to a business=
 environment the way tariffs work.  As far as MLPPP, it seems to be prett=
y stable now where you need multiple bonded T-1s.  We have a few sites ru=
nning MLPPP with Sprint on Juniper and Cisco gear and have not had an iss=
ue with it.  It is definitely not my preference for business connectivity=
 anymore.  We tend to look for Ethernet service which is way cheaper per =
mb than T-1 and requires less expensive terminal equipment in most cases.=
  T-1s are the business solution where you need dedicated MPLS connectivi=
ty and fiber transport is not available.  DSL or Internet VPN are OK but =
somewhat less stable for business class private network solutions.  If it=
 is internet connectivity they want you will get beaten up by the cable c=
ompanies that can outrun and outprice you across the board.  You will als=
o have a heck of a time competing with incumbent and competitive telecoms=
 in T-1s that have central offices or collocations in central offices.  T=
he economics just don't work if you don't have direct access to the cable=
 plant.  Maybe up until the telecom act but not now.  How do you intend t=
o get those T-1s back to you or are you a CLEC?
>
>

I am a clec with colocated facilities, and my targets are rural unserved =

areas where none of the factors above are considerations. I just want to =

connect with anyone who's done this and has a qualified technical=20
opinion on optimal deployment strategies; the business considerations=20
are already done.

Thanks tho.

Mike




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