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RE: net neutrality and peering wars continue
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Siegel, David)
Thu Jun 20 10:11:58 2013
From: "Siegel, David" <David.Siegel@Level3.com>
To: Benson Schliesser <bensons@queuefull.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:11:20 +0000
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Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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The tools cannot estimate burden into the peers network very well, particul=
arly when longest-exit routing is implement to balance the mileage burden, =
so each party shares their information with each other and compares data in=
order to make decisions.
It's not common, but there are a handful of peers that share this informati=
on with each other.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Benson Schliesser [mailto:bensons@queuefull.net]=20
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:45 AM
To: Siegel, David
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: net neutrality and peering wars continue
On Jun 19, 2013, at 23:41, "Siegel, David" <David.Siegel@level3.com> wrote:
> Well, with net flow Analytics, it's not really the case that we don't hav=
e a way of evaluating the relative burdens. Every major net flow Analytics=
vendor is implementing some type of distance measurement capability so tha=
t each party can calculate not only how much traffic they carry for each pe=
er, but how far.
Admittedly, it's been a few years since I looked at such tools... So please=
help me understand: does the tool evaluate distance (and therefore burden)=
as it extends into the peer's network, or just into the local network? And=
in either case, is this kind of data normalized and shared between peers? =
It seems like there could be a mechanism here to evaluate fairness of burde=
ns, but I'm skeptical that these tools are used in such a way. I'd be glad =
to be incorrect. ;)
Cheers,
-Benson
