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Re: Mechanics of CALEA taps

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Lewis)
Sun Jun 9 20:48:37 2013

Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:48:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
To: Randy Fischer <randy.fischer@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAGXkcm46fVFhnoHKZiACEYe5k4CV=H45Ff=zZMLz2pQyeyNAcA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013, Randy Fischer wrote:

> Dear nanog:
>
> Honestly, I expect replies to this question to range between zero and none,
> but I have to ask it.
>
> I understand the CALEA tap mechanism for most ISPs, generally, works like
> this:
>
> * we outsource our CALEA management to company X
> * we don't even know there's been a request until we've gotten a bill from
> X.
>
> And that's the extent of it.
>
> Well, golly Slothrop, maybe someone else has started picking up the tab.
> Would you even know?
>
> Is that possible?

Inconceivable!  That'd be like having your security system monitoring 
company able to eavesdrop on your house any time they want, just in case.
Come to think of it, the latest greatest systems are capable of that.

It sounds so stupid to me, I bet someone's doing it.

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