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RE: Mechanics of CALEA taps

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Mon Jun 10 11:29:34 2013

From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Dennis Burgess <dmburgess@linktechs.net>, Randy Fischer
 <randy.fischer@gmail.com>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:28:21 +0000
In-Reply-To: <50710E9A7E64454C974049FC998EB655E230A5@03-exchange.lti.local>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

The only calea intercept I watched take place was with a system made by San=
dvine.. And it was pretty shocking.


Sent from my Mobile Device.


-------- Original message --------
From: Dennis Burgess <dmburgess@linktechs.net>
Date: 06/10/2013 6:25 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Randy Fischer <randy.fischer@gmail.com>,nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Mechanics of CALEA taps


While its possible to do this, you would have to have a device that would n=
ot impact performance typically at every exit point, but in a perfect world=
 it would be on the clients CPE device!    Our wireless CPE's can do this. =
   I would not that a business model to not bill until a request is complet=
ed would work due to the amount of hardware that x company would have to pu=
t out.

Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Secon=
d Edition"
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Fischer [mailto:randy.fischer@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:59 PM
To: North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Mechanics of CALEA taps

Dear nanog:

Honestly, I expect replies to this question to range between zero and none,=
 but I have to ask it.

I understand the CALEA tap mechanism for most ISPs, generally, works like
this:

 * we outsource our CALEA management to company X
 * we don't even know there's been a request until we've gotten a bill from=
 X.

And that's the extent of it.

Well, golly Slothrop, maybe someone else has started picking up the tab.
Would you even know?

Is that possible?

Thanks,

Randy Fischer


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