[163466] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Harrison)
Sat Jun 8 20:21:18 2013
Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2013 01:20:46 +0100
From: James Harrison <james@talkunafraid.co.uk>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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On 08/06/2013 16:31, William Herrin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:25 AM, jamie rishaw <j@arpa.com> wrote:
>> Just wait until we find out dark and lit private fiber is getting
>> vampired.
>
> Why wait?
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/20/politics/20submarine.html?_r=0
>
> -Bill
>
In a similar vein, a new PRISM slide was released by the Guardian this
morning:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-prism-server-collection-facebook-google
Doesn't specifically say private fiber - just "fiber cables and
infrastructure". May just refer to fiber to/from/within complying
company infrastructure, ofc, not necessarily anything else.
They also apparently have a web 2.0 compliant dashboard with a catchy
name and pop-ups with big numbers in: Boundless Informant.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining
Speaking from the other side of the pond it's interesting to see where
this is going. GCHQ (the UK NSA equivalent) are being asked stern
questions by the government about their involvement and if they've
been asking the NSA for UK citizens' data (since they're not allowed
to collect it themselves).
Cheers,
James Harrison
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