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Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan Malayter)
Sat Jun 8 18:47:31 2013

From: Ryan Malayter <malayter@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CABL6YZTGVEdcdun2MPRa6VeZa91vu5XvJpzMXzQt2NYq6BWjdQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:43:55 -0500
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Jun 7, 2013, at 12:25 AM, jamie rishaw <j@arpa.com> wrote:

> <tinfoilhat>
> Just wait until we find out dark and lit private fiber is getting vampired=
.
> </tinfoilhat>

Speaking from the content provider dide here, but we've always run IPsec on D=
CIs and even "private" T1s/DS3s back in the day.

Doesn't everyone do the same these days? I find it hard to imagine passing a=
ny audit/compliance process without doing so.

"Private lines" or "dedicated fiber" always pass through much public, unmana=
ged, and unmonitored space infrastructure. And we know better than to trust o=
ur providers to never screw up and mis-route traffic.=


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