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Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Fri Jun 7 17:21:27 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: "Jason L. Sparks" <jlsparks@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:21:01 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAAZ0kRhe13PtYNXkRC1x4gaf8c2=2TXa+Dwm7VD6TqoMwzyzOg@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
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Wink wink
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/07/startup-palantir-denie=
s-its-prism-software-is-the-nsas-prism-surveillance-system/
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: "Jason L. Sparks" <jlsparks@gmail.com>
Date: 06/07/2013 1:31 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>,NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
I assume the unclassified word "Prism" (which is found everywhere on IC res=
umes and open job descriptions) refers to Palantir's Prism suite. Could be=
wrong, but seems logical.
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligenc=
egroup.com<mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>> wrote:
Has anyone found out if this system is actually based on Narus? I associate=
d this program as a super version of the AT&T thing, and if I recall it was=
understood that was Narus and Co via NSA/FBI?
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com<mailto:jra@baylink.com>>
Date: 06/07/2013 12:16 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu<mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks=
@vt.edu>>
> On Thu, 06 Jun 2013 22:57:07 -0700, Mark Seiden said:
> > and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do
> > anything like this addressing even a single provider for that little mo=
ney.
>
> Convince me the *real* number doesn't have another zero.
>
> Remember - the $20M number came from a source that has *very* good
> reason to lie as much as it can right now about the true extent of this.
Indeed. Luckily, the press is all over this like a bad smell.
I mentioned The Story in a new posting just now; they have, surprisingly,
already managed to dig at this spot, a pretty quick response for them:
http://www.thestory.org/stories/2013-06/americans-spying-americans
Cheers,
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