[163416] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Fri Jun 7 17:12:50 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@newslink.com>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:10:58 +0000
In-Reply-To: <AA206C21-05D7-412C-91DD-1BBC900FD550@newslink.com>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Lol..
I think the 20k hammer is probably a result of the contract vehicle. Firm f=
ixed tend to have trouble with change orders so they bury costs within the =
project. The real cheap stuff comes from the indefinite quantity type of co=
ntracts, where they are buying consumables regularly at a discounted rate (=
and change orders are non issues). I used to wonder why the air force would=
run close to full burner on a training departure towards to the end of the=
month. I was told by someone who had an understanding of these things if y=
ou didn't use your fuel in a given month it impacted the next months delive=
ry. It was necessary waste to ensure regular fuel quantities. The governmen=
t entity was buying fuel on an indefinite basis, and the contract made the =
fuel cheaper as they were burning more. It's a total shit show in governmen=
t contracting, which is I'm surprised they consider this system to be so wi=
ldly successful. If it was some anti jihad box, why did it not detect the B=
oston guys (who were not US citizens and likely would have been subject to =
monitoring by the anti jihad box)?
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy@newslink.com>
Date: 06/07/2013 1:38 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> w=
rote:
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Mark Seiden <mis@seiden.com> wrote:
>
>> and also, only $20m/year? in my experience, the govt cannot do anything=
like this
>> addressing even a single provider for that little money.
>
> agreed, that 20m seems extraordinarily low for such an effort... hell,
> for 6 yrs time transport costs along would have exceeded that number.
>
Obligatory Independence Day quote:
President Thomas Whitmore: I don't understand, where does all this come fro=
m? How do you get funding for something like this?
Julius Levinson: You don't actually think they spend $20,000 on a hammer, $=
30,000 on a toilet seat, do you?
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