[162323] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rajiv Asati (rajiva))
Mon Apr 8 23:23:28 2013
From: "Rajiv Asati (rajiva)" <rajiva@cisco.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 03:23:16 +0000
In-Reply-To: <31C45ACC-076B-4DBD-BE8F-B848A26006F1@delong.com>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
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I agree. Apple does it really well, no doubt about it. This is because
they control both the software and hardware.
Google/Android =E7an not do it well enough, since the Android OS version
compatibility with the hardware is somewhat dictated by the hardware
manufacturer. This isn't always helpful. :-(
For ex, there are numerous android apps that are not supported
on many android devices. :=3D(
Anyway, this is why I think that dual-stack home networks (and UEs) will
be with us for a long time.
Cheers,
Rajiv
-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013 8:52 PM
To: Rajiv Asati <rajiva@cisco.com>
Cc: Fabien Delmotte <fdelmotte1@mac.com>, nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Verizon DSL moving to CGN
>
>On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:54 , Rajiv Asati (rajiva) <rajiva@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>>=20
>> Like you, I would like to be optimistic about many v4-only apps and
>> v4-only devices becoming dual-stack sooner than later.
>>=20
>> But knowing that a significant (50%+) of android devices may not support
>> IPv6 (just like my brand new Samsung Galaxy 7'' tablet (just bought over
>> the weekend) being v4-only) and may not be upgraded by their users to
>>the
>> right software, and that Skype etc. apps are out there, my optimism
>>fades
>> away.
>
>The upgrade problem isn't that hard to solve. As soon as users want to use
>something that doesn't work without the upgrade, the upgrades get
>installed.
>
>Apple does a great job of this...
>
>Every time they release an iOS upgrade I really don't want, they manage to
>also release an update to software that I do care about. That software
>update
>inherently requires me to accept the iOS upgrade.
>
>Owen
>
