[160795] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward Dore)
Wed Feb 13 12:30:52 2013
From: Edward Dore <edward.dore@freethought-internet.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <CAAAas8GUB8XypTQ5Rp=o4uLqxYfqLy020Lb0w7SNkEXNy8Fh0w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:30:01 +0000
To: Mike Jones <mike@mikejones.in>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Sadly, despite this being challenged with both the telecoms regulator =
(Ofcom) and advertising watchdog (ASA), for some reason both seem pretty =
happy with the utter farce that is advertising BT/OpenReach's VDSL based =
Fibre To The Cabinet and Virgin Media's Hybrid Fibre Coax networks as =
"fibre optic broadband".
We have a very small amount of Fibre To The Home/Fibre To The Premise =
being deployed by BT/Openreach using some kind of PON technology, but =
I'm not sure which variant off-hand.
We were supposed to be getting FTTP where I live last March, but for =
some reason BT silently scrapped that plan and now we are getting FTTC =
this March apparently... I'm not going to hold my breath though!
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Freethought Internet=20
On 13 Feb 2013, at 15:07, Mike Jones wrote:
> On 13 February 2013 12:34, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
>> Using the UK as a model for US and Canadian deployments is a fallacy.
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> I don't believe anyone was looking at the UK model? But now that you
> mention it the UK has a rather interesting model for fibre deployment,
> a significant portion of the country has "fibre optic broadband"
> avaliable from multiple providers.
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> BT Openreach (and others on their infrastructure) offer "Fibre Optic
> Broadband" over twisted pair, and VirginMedia offer "Fibre Optic
> Broadband" over coax.
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> The UKs 'just pretend it's fibre' deployment method is cheaper than
> both PON and SS. Only requirement is that you have a regulator that
> doesn't care when companies flat out lie to customers.
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> - Mike
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