[160318] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fletcher Kittredge)
Sun Feb 3 21:29:22 2013
In-Reply-To: <CAMrdfRy14m1oBA6GRxxyXA__phZzvUZ2=V3Rxc9HcDSRobPf9A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:29:08 -0500
From: Fletcher Kittredge <fkittred@gwi.net>
To: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
In this particular post, your making stuff up. There are still
"residential focused" CLECs and ordering Unbundled Network Elements(UNEs)
is not more difficult than in the past. The rules haven't changed.
What is certainly true is that many CLECs have found that it is more
lucrative to sell to businesses, but I don't think there is a correlation
with residential getting more difficult. We used to be 75%/25%
residential/business and are now 45%/55% business, but that reflects the
*rapid* growth of the business market.
regards,
Fletcher
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> I'm assuming from your domain that you're in Canada where yes dry pairs are
> still generally available. I apologize for not making it clear that my
> comment was specifically about the US where dry pairs are nearly impossible
> to order today and the CLEC market has almost entirely abandoned the
> residential space. In fact, the only state in the US that I still see any
> residentially focused CLECs is Texas which tells me there is something
> about the regulations in that state that makes it more feasible.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Joe Abley <jabley@hopcount.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2013-02-03, at 14:39, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dry pairs are impossible to order these days for a reason.
> >
> > Dry pairs are trivial to order round these parts. Generalisations are
> > always wrong, no doubt including this one.
> >
> >
> > Joe (putting the N back in NANOG)
>
>
>
>
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