[160228] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Feb 2 17:44:14 2013
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <5680273.4658.1359844017052.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:41:23 -0800
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra@baylink.com>
>=20
>> It's about 3 square miles, and has about 8000 passings, the majority
>> of which are single or double family residential; a sprinkling of
>> multi-tenant, about a dozen city facilities, and a bunch of retail=20
>> multi-unit business.
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> I was musing, off-list, as to why there isn't a Mad-Lib you can just =
plug=20
> some numbers into and get within, say, 40% or so of your target costs =
for
> a given design.
>=20
> Well,=20
>=20
> http://www.ftthcommunitytoolkit.wikispaces.net
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> isn't it, but it does have a bunch of useful information for this =
project,
> looks like.
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> A couple of clarifying points:
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> 1) I had posited GPON as I assumed that was where most of the CATV =
over
> FTTH hardware work was, vice FiOS. Turns out there's lots of hardware =
for
> IPTV as well, and quite a number of smaller deployments, so apparently
> that path is easier than I thought. The only difference is =
cross-connect
> fiber counts, and possibly some link budget.
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> 2) I was planning to provide an IX switch in my colo, so all my L3 =
providers
> could short-circuit traffic to my *other* providers through it, =
unloading=20
> my uplinks.
>=20
> 3) Given that, I suppose I could put Limelight and Akamai racks in =
there,
> and couple them to the IX switch as well, policies permitting.
>=20
> 4) Given what a pisser it's going to be to get tags to me on the local=20=
> backbone loops (about 3 are with 5 miles of my city border), I'm also
> considering having a 10G or 2 hauled in from each of 2 backbones, and
> reselling those to my L3 providers (again at cost recovery pricing),=20=
> while not precluding any provider wanting to haul in their own uplink
> from doing so.
>=20
A better model, IMHO, is to encourage the backbones to come meet your
providers at your IX/Colo.
> 5) There's a possiblity my college campus may be on I2 (or want to);=20=
> perhaps I can facilitate that as well -- and possible (again, policies
> permitting) extend such connections to relevant staff members or =
students
> who live in the city) (I'm not as familiar with I2 as I should be).
Do some research before you pursue this too vocally or commit to it.
> 6) And pursuant to 3, perhaps I could even set up the IPTV service and
> resell that to the L3 provider to bundle with their IP service, so
> they don't have to do it themselves; while it's not a difficult as I=20=
> had gathered, it's still harder than them doing VoIP as part of their=20=
> own triple-play.
Pandora's can of worms.
Owen
