[159150] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jo Rhett)
Tue Dec 25 01:53:32 2012
From: Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAN3um4wJnKs_yCWUf3+mv3WeVAudd_PG-4hjg1XUtm6FwibjpA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 22:53:11 -0800
To: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Small shop people wise with millions of customers and tens of thousands =
of application and log-derived data sources. We use Zenoss extensively =
and mostly we keep having to make decisions what data to pull out of it =
so it can function.
I have previously worked at larger enterprises which had millions of =
data sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how =
much hardware we threw at it.
On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
> Very small shop with millions of data sources?
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> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com> =
wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
> > Zenoss works very well
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> Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work =
acceptably for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of =
data. Zenoss is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets =
with tens of thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets =
with millions of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three =
total engineers and Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data =
sources with dozens of cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on =
numerous systems. It doesn't actually use any of these, the internal =
deadlocks in the architecture make it impossible for it to scale.
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> That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is =
purported and sold to do... amuses.
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> Jo Rhett
> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet =
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Jo Rhett
Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet =
projects.
