[159162] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP Address Management IPAM software for small ISP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric)
Thu Dec 27 08:01:26 2012
From: Eric <eric@roxanne.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAN3um4z3qO99x4bOqC8Yh58ekB+ajQJvzj-DwDCmMA3KS29LzQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:01:11 -0500
To: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I ran Zenoss for a network with about 5k - 7k switches/APs, about 100 L3 dev=
ices (routers, firewalls), and about 50 servers/appliances without any polli=
ng problems. This was a few years ago on the open source product. With tha=
t said, we were reluctant to expand this to monitor the rest of our enterpri=
se as the open source version didn't support distributed polling/collection,=
which might be the scaling issue Jo mentioned... That, unfortunately, was o=
nly available in the paid "enterprise" one. Other than that, we really like=
d it.
On Dec 25, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ahhh.
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> That sucks. I've never put our Zenoss installs through quite that much
> traffic. That's a shame to hear.
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> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com> wrot=
e:
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>> Small shop people wise with millions of customers and tens of thousands o=
f
>> application and log-derived data sources. We use Zenoss extensively and
>> mostly we keep having to make decisions what data to pull out of it so it=
>> can function.
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>> I have previously worked at larger enterprises which had millions of data=
>> sources, and Zenoss couldn't dream of handling that, no matter how much
>> hardware we threw at it.
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>> On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:48 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
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>> Very small shop with millions of data sources?
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>> lol?
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>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett@netconsonance.com>wrot=
e:
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>>> On Dec 20, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
>>>> Zenoss works very well
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>>> Um... you lost me after the first 4 words. Zenoss might work acceptably
>>> for very, very small organizations with very small amounts of data. Zeno=
ss
>>> is incapable of scaling to even moderate-sized data sets with tens of
>>> thousands of data sources, nevermind medium sized data sets with million=
s
>>> of data sources. I work at a very small shop with three total engineers a=
nd
>>> Zenoss was unable to scale beyond 1/4 of our data sources with dozens of=
>>> cores and hundreds of gigabytes of RAM on numerous systems. It doesn't
>>> actually use any of these, the internal deadlocks in the architecture ma=
ke
>>> it impossible for it to scale.
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>>> That Zenoss might make a better IP management tool than what it is
>>> purported and sold to do... amuses.
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>>> --
>>> Jo Rhett
>>> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet
>>> projects.
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>> --
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>> --
>> Jo Rhett
>> Net Consonance : net philanthropy to improve open source and internet
>> projects.
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>=20
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> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
