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RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Naslund, Steve)
Fri Nov 30 17:37:48 2012
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:31:39 -0600
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From: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Guess who has power over the networks and Internet. We do and power =
corrupts us too. There are some bad guy ISPs and engineers out there =
too. Just because you are running a Tor server to allow for "privacy =
protection" does not mean you were never doing anything illegal through =
it. I know this is not true in all cases but a lot of times the guy who =
screams the most about privacy has something to hide. Do you like =
getting phone calls with blocked callerID? Do you like getting =
anonymous SPAM? Do you mind having anonymously sourced pics of your =
kids going out over the internet? One guys privacy is sometimes an =
invasion of mine. =20
If this guy is so distraught over this case maybe he should have ensured =
that he had the resources to defend himself before he put up the =
multiple exit nodes. There are test cases all the time, but if you want =
to be the test case you should be prepared. =20
How many of us have killed an open mail relay (did you have a warrant =
before you interrupted that good Samaritan providing that free mail =
server to the poor downtrodden email-less masses...you are not even a =
cop and did not have a judge review your actions..how dare you...)?
Steven Naslund
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Wieling [mailto:EWieling@nyigc.com]=20
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:12 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help =
if you can.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Kristolaitis [mailto:alter3d@alter3d.ca]=20
>Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:53 PM
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please =
help if you can.
>
> (Note: I don't mean to imply that all cops are power hungry=20
>mouth-breathers intent on destroying the lives of citizens. Most cops =
>are fundamentally good people and do a great job. But like every other =
profession, there ARE bad cops out there, and it's within the realm of =
possibility that you'll deal with one of them one day.)
Power corrupts and cops have power. What scares me is that there is =
no way *I* can tell the difference between a cop who accepts free coffee =
from the local caf=E9 and a cop who will lie to get what they want.
