[158241] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cutler James R)
Mon Nov 26 20:08:24 2012
From: Cutler James R <james.cutler@consultant.com>
In-Reply-To: <E5CC2457-5C75-461F-8D59-06D61ADE08F0@arbor.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:07:13 -0500
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>,
NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Nov 26, 2012, at 7:47 PM, "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net> =
wrote:
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Cutler James R wrote:
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>> Have you looked at the current Apple software? It pretty much "just =
works" on IPv6.
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> Yes, but it doesn't do or enable anything via IPv6 that it doesn't do =
or enable via IPv4.
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>> This also automatically brings along IPv6 capabilities.
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> Capabilities <> deployment.
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> Again, the most energy almost all enterprise IT departments are =
putting into IPv6 is to include an undefined 'IPv6-capable' checkbox on =
RFPs. That's it.
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>> What they do care about is reliable sharing of gossip, pictures, and =
videos. They also care about reliable video chats with friends and =
family.=20
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> And it is these 'killer apps' which have driven the global deployment =
of IPv4 and the growth of the modern commercial IPv4-based public =
Internet, as well as the near-universal adoption of IPv4 transport =
within private networks.
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> The huge economic benefits of mobile voice and data connectivity are =
the reasons behind its spectacular growth and increasing ubiquity. =
Mobile voice and data allow people to do things that they simply =
couldn't do before, and to do things which they didn't even view as =
possibilities before.
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> My contention is that in order for IPv6 to become widely deployed =
within any foreseeable time-frame, it may well prove that there must be =
some content/services/applications which are a) greatly desired by users =
and b) only available via/possible with IPv6 in order to provide the =
requisite economic stimulus.
Well, at least you and I agree that IPv6 and IPv4 are simply Layer 3 =
protocols.
Regarding "there must be some content/services/applications which are a) =
greatly desired by users and b) only available via/possible with IPv6", =
your viewpoint ignores the millions and millions of end users/systems =
which will join networks around the globe in the near future. Those =
content/services/applications will only be reachable via IPv6 because =
that is all that can be deployed without truly horrendous and costly =
mismanagement of IPv4 address space.
=46rom a longer-than-next-month business viewpoint, it is more cost =
effective to deploy IPv6 than to continue the crude IPv4 hacks =
previously mentioned. Please note that this does not imply instant =
turndown of existing IPv4.=
