[157764] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Indonesian ISP Moratel announces Google's prefixes
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Wed Nov 7 00:15:51 2012
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAAxc0wXpRKtCrrMra4cxecVhy1vF_wJe1hF7OBK5k7VsueZhrA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 00:13:52 -0500
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On Nov 07, 2012, at 00:07 , Jian Gu <guxiaojian@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where did you get the idea that a Moratel customer announced a =
google-owned
> prefix to Moratel and Moratel did not have the proper filters in =
place?
> according to the blog, all google's 4 authoritative DNS server =
networks and
> 8.8.8.0/24 were wrongly routed to Moratel, what's the possiblity for a
> Moratel customers announce all those prefixes?
Ah, right, they just leaked Google's prefix. I thought a customer =
originated the prefix.
Original question still stands. Which attribute do you expect Google to =
set to stop this?
Hint: Don't say No-Advertise, unless you want peers to only talk to the =
adjacent AS, not their customers or their customers' customers, etc.
Looking forward to your answer.
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TTFN,
patrick
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore =
<patrick@ianai.net>wrote:
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>> On Nov 06, 2012, at 23:48 , Jian Gu <guxiaojian@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> What do you mean hijack? Google is peering with Moratel, if Google =
does
>> not
>>> want Moratel to advertise its routes to Moratel's peers/upstreams, =
then
>>> Google should've set the correct BGP attributes in the first place.
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>> That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense.
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>> If a Moratel customer announced a Google-owned prefix to Moratel, and
>> Moratel did not have the proper filters in place, there is nothing =
Google
>> could do to stop the hijack from happening.
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>> Exactly what attribute do you think would stop this?
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>> TTFN,
>> patrick
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>>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:35 AM, Anurag Bhatia <me@anuragbhatia.com>
>> wrote:
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>>>> Another case of route hijack -
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http://blog.cloudflare.com/why-google-went-offline-today-and-a-bit-about
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>>>> I am curious if big networks have any pre-defined filters for big
>> content
>>>> providers like Google to avoid these? I am sure internet community
>> would be
>>>> working in direction to somehow prevent these issues. Curious to =
know
>>>> developments so far.
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>>>> Thanks.
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>>>> Anurag Bhatia
>>>> anuragbhatia.com
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