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RE: NSA and the exchanges

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erik Soosalu)
Wed Oct 31 14:54:41 2012

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:53:24 -0400
In-Reply-To: <CAJL_ZMPxMXDbD4xdTEsgFfo1tbcZm+DhyZPHFDazPNfRbC5H-g@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Erik Soosalu" <erik.soosalu@calyxinc.com>
To: "jim deleskie" <deleskie@gmail.com>,
	"andy lam" <anwalam@yahoo.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

I'd assume the NSA and CSIS would be talking as needed.

Whether CSIS is actually monitoring in there is another question.  I'd
assume yes, but have never heard anything to confirm or deny.


-----Original Message-----
From: jim deleskie [mailto:deleskie@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:37 PM
To: andy lam
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges

If your talking "the NSA" I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
would also be in violation in wiretap laws.

Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)

-jim

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam <anwalam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors
151 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the
US, but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its
neighbor's soil?
>
> There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
>
>
> feedback welcome.




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