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Re: NSA and the exchanges

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Howard C. Berkowitz)
Wed Oct 31 15:30:09 2012

Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:28:57 -0400
From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@netcases.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <0B224A2FE01CC54C860290D42474BF600570D6B8@exchange.nff.local>
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On 10/31/2012 2:53 PM, Erik Soosalu wrote:
> I'd assume the NSA and CSIS would be talking as needed.

Communications Security Establishment to NSA, but point taken.
>
> Whether CSIS is actually monitoring in there is another question.  I'd
> assume yes, but have never heard anything to confirm or deny.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim deleskie [mailto:deleskie@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:37 PM
> To: andy lam
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: NSA and the exchanges
>
> If your talking "the NSA" I doubt anyone would tell you.  That being
> said: it would mean the US gov't breaking Canadian law I suspect.  Now
> in Canada it is quite possible that the Canadian Fed gov't monitors
> traffic but I would also say no one would tell you because telling you
> would also be in violation in wiretap laws.
>
> Best advice, assume they do and hope they don't. :)
>
> -jim
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, andy lam <anwalam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Anyone knows if there's a way to find out how involved NSA monitors
> 151 front street at Toronto?  NSA allegedly monitors data centres in the
> US, but does it have the same influence at a building sitting in its
> neighbor's soil?
>> There's something on the web like www.ixmaps.ca that tries to piece it
> together.  but not sure how helpful the information on there really is?
>>
>> feedback welcome.
>
>
>



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