[156924] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: guys != gender neutral
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keith Medcalf)
Sat Sep 29 23:59:16 2012
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 21:59:02 -0600
In-Reply-To: <5FE1FB6D43B8A647BBC821840C1AEA8B017E12@ocsbs.ocosa.com>
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Ugly bags of mostly water?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Otis L. Surratt, Jr. [mailto:otis@ocosa.com]
> Sent: Friday, 28 September, 2012 05:33
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: guys !=3D gender neutral
>
> Maybe the OP for "really nasty attacks" in hindsight wishes "NANOGers" wa=
s
> used instead to address the list. :)
>
> Having "all walks of life" essentially all around, it really makes one
> careful to truly think before speaking. Sometimes we miss this with
> everything we have going on, but no one is perfect.
>
> The bottomline is, no one can really sastifisfy any indivdual and their
> preference of how they would liked to be addressed. If one is to be offen=
ded
> or looks for offense they will capitalize on it period. I try much as
> possible to avoid those situations.
>
> When we refer to our clients in a mass communication we either utilize ou=
r
> tools to auto fix their name to the letter or we address them as "OCOSA
> Family" or "All" or "Clients". We are a very family-oriented business an=
d
> are "down to Earth." We'd like to believe our clients are apart of our fa=
mily
> and some may take offense but you might or never would know unless an
> opportunity presented itself.
>
> Personally, I practice using the person's name, I am in communication
> with...not "buddy", "bud", "pal", "man", "guys", "gal" "y'all" and etc. W=
hen
> addressing mixed gender groups, I simply speak or address as "all". Thus,=
no
> mistakes.
>
> When addressing both genders you have to be extremely careful. Ultimately=
, It
> depends on the audience and treating all with respect seems to work for m=
e.
>
> For example: You could address a group a men and call them "boys". Well, =
that
> might offend some, especially if they are older than you.
> For example: You could address a group of young adults and call them "kid=
s".
> Well, that might offend some.
>
> As Owen mentioned saying "human" seems okay and true but then again, beca=
use
> it's not the norm it raises some question. (Internal thinking process, "O=
h
> I'm a HUMAN!!!!, well I that is true" then your temperature gets back to
> normal) :)
>
> In general, this is life and I simply have fun and enjoy it because it's =
too
> short.
>
>
> Otis
