[156129] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Sep 7 02:41:38 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <504992E2.4080305@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:34:29 -0700
To: Masataka Ohta <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
This has been experimental with no forward progress since 2001.
Any sane person would conclude that the experiment failed to garner any
meaningful support.
Is there any continuing active work on this experiment?
Any running code?
Didn't think so.
Owen
On Sep 6, 2012, at 23:23 , Masataka Ohta =
<mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote:
> Oliver wrote:
>=20
>>> All that necessary is local changes on end systems of those who
>>> want the end to end transparency.
>>>=20
>>> There is no changes on the Internet.
>>=20
>> You're basically redefining the term "end-to-end transparency" to =
suit your own
>=20
> Already in RFC3102, which restrict port number ranges, it is
> stated that:
>=20
> This document examines the general framework of Realm Specific IP
> (RSIP). RSIP is intended as a alternative to NAT in which the end-
> to-end integrity of packets is maintained. We focus on
> implementation issues, deployment scenarios, and interaction with
> other layer-three protocols.
>=20
> It's you who tries to change the meaning of "end to end transparency".
>=20
> Masataka Ohta
>=20
