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Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Aug 3 18:11:46 2012

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAP-guGWkK0McQ+X5hNRKX3Wu4OZ2POanX-HX8nDst-RyAESu4g@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:05:59 -0700
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Aug 3, 2012, at 14:17 , William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:31 , William Herrin <bill@herrin.us> wrote:
>>> Could be worse. I could have Pepco instead of Dominion. But it could
>>> be better. And 20 years ago the reliability was.
>> 
>> 20 years ago you didn't have a megabit to your home let alone many
>> megabits. 20 years ago, POTS was much simpler than the converged
>> networks we have today. There is something to be said for the simplicity
>> of POTS.
>> 
>> If you're that concerned about calling 911 for a heat stroke, why don't
>> you maintain a POTS line?
> 
> When Verizon installed FIOS in the neighborhood they removed the
> copper lines to each house. It was understood and accepted that if the
> household fiber adapters did not receive power the battery would fail
> in a few hours. That the upstream would fail, even for folks who took
> measures to continue to power the fiber adapter, was unexpected and
> very unfortunate. If they can run a copper pair back to a powerable
> location then it escapes me why they can't do the same with a single
> strand of fiber.
> 

Sounds like your beef should be with your local regulators that allowed
them to remove the copper plant without providing adequate assurance
of comparable service from the replacement.

Owen

> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
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