[152315] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 25 11:39:28 2012
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CALBytuYyXrQeYD1VrbdONaJzOUsJT5X4z71BVS0N210AURd6nw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:34:30 -0700
To: Kenneth McRae <kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required =
is what
has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper =
justification.
If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) =
information is
in fact part of that utilization information.
Owen
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:
> Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I have =
been
> required to provide utilization information. I am sure this "policy" =
is
> and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding..
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> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <jof@thejof.com> =
wrote:
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>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <admin@thecpaneladmin.com> wrote:
>>> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user
>> allocation
>>> they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing
>> allocations,
>>> which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are =
insisting
>>> that this is standard process and something that everyone does when
>>> requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this?
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>> Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
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>> When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg
>> problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking
>> for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations
>> must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider
>> and begin using it.
>> At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space
>> will justify a direct allocation.
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>> Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally =
independent.
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>> Cheers,
>> jof
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> Best Regards,
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> Kenneth McRae
> *Sr. Network Engineer*
> kenneth.mcrae@dreamhost.com
> Ph: 323-375-3814
> www.dreamhost.com
