[151233] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon FiOS - is BGP an option?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Tue Mar 13 21:14:39 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAPiURgUFyxHb-Hf-BhfaHkQUJYFH1CYaBTLgqjrhqQSK1nLx1w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 21:13:44 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Grant Ridder <shortdudey123@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> 4 of the 6 downstreams are multihomed. Only=A040321=A0(Emigrant Bank)
> and=A018762=A0(Dominick & Dominick LLC) are single homed to 19262 (Verizo=
n
> Online LLC).
yup... vz had for quite some time actual 'network' customers behind
19262, as part of larger multi-site deals. they also ran a 'private
mpls vpn' across that same core for a time (and likely still do...)
-chris
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Justin M. Streiner
> <streiner@cluebyfour.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Mar 2012, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>
>>> A) DHCP only, single address, dynamic
>>> B) Single Static address (uplift of 25$/month I believe?)
>>
>>
>> I think that might be $40/mo now, but I could be mistaken.
>>
>>
>>> Also, I know that on 701 the rate of BGP to non-BGP customers was
>>> increasing and was at ~30% or so as of ~2007... You'd think that 19262
>>> would see that, see the business opportunity and offer it? Though, I
>>> suppose they DO see the business opportunity: "You want bgp? you want
>>> to bring your own ips? you want more than a DHCP address? Pay up, a
>>> lot."
>>
>>
>> I wonder if something is cooking there. =A0When I look at a full BGP vie=
w, I
>> see quite a few ASNs downstream of 19262, beyond some that appear to be
>> internal VZ ASNs:
>>
>> * 12.195.9.0/24 =A0 =A0x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 30079
>> * 65.198.73.0/24 =A0 x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 40321
>> * 68.236.226.0/24 =A0x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 18762
>> * 137.71.229.0/24 =A0x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 20258
>> * 141.155.220.0/24 x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 36512
>> * 143.165.216.0/21 x.x.x.x =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 701 19262 2923
>> .....
>>
>> jms
>>
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