[150964] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Request to lease IP space,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Michaelson)
Thu Mar 8 22:11:17 2012
From: George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.1203082201320.2201@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:10:19 +1000
To: Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 09/03/2012, at 1:03 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, George Michaelson wrote:
>=20
>> The value proposition is gaming google page rank, by using widely =
spread and legitimately routed IPs to force your paying customers page =
rank high, by hits and references. This is a very high value business: =
one customer paying you big bucks, to have their web high in google =
pagerank. Not attacking a million mailboxes.
>=20
> If that's all they want, why not get dedi/vp/cloud servers distributed =
all around the globe and use those for hosting the sites used to drive =
up page rank?
>=20
because by renting others space, they get the benefit of hiding in their =
otherwise normal traffic? plausible denyability?
I don't know. I used over-pejorative language. this is probably not ALL =
they want to do, but I don't think the primary driver is spam, because =
spam generates a lower income stream, and has higher risks of being RBL =
or otherwise blocked, and can be achieved quickly by use of unrouted =
space.
Also, what makes you think they aren't renting VPS? Or (for that matter) =
founding Virtual Hosting companies, and acquiring address for this =
purpose?=20
Surely a wise strategy in this space is to have many strategies?
-G
PS same: since this goes to address policy, I need to declare that I =
work for an RIR but I am posting in a personal capacity and nothing I =
say is a reflection of any RIR address policy. I work in the research =
department, not in registry/allocations
