[148677] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Megaupload.com seized
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Fri Jan 20 06:23:06 2012
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 11:17:50 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CCFC6BC1-7C03-4372-91EC-C686E96CA114@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 03:05:47AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Jan 20, 2012, at 2:25 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote:
>
> >
> > Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I suspect most file sharing site don't have illegal content. Most
> >> would have some content that is there without the permission of the
> >> copyright holder. These are different things.
> >
> > <nitpick>
> > "Without the permission of the copyright holder" _is_ contrary to
> > statute, and thus 'against the law'. As such 'illegal' is _not_
> > an incorrect term to apply to the situation.
> >
> > It may not be a _criminal_ violation, but it is still proscribed by law.
> >
> > "Illegal" and "criminal" -- _these_ are different things.
> >
> > Junk faxing is illegal, Telemarketing calls to cell phones are illegal,
> > Public distribution without the permission of the copyright owner is
> > illegal.
> >
> > Except in special cases, none of those actions are _criminal_, but
> > they are all violations of law, and thus _illegal_.
> >
>
> Actually, they are all criminal violations. They may be infractions, or, they
> may not often get prosecuted, but, each is, in fact, a criminal violation.
>
> Owen
>
depends on the jurisdiction me thinks. Do US laws apply in India? Nigeria?
Mars? Your broad generlizations may not hold.
/bill
