[147530] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Sad IPv4 story?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Don Gould)
Wed Dec 14 01:34:40 2011
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 19:36:49 +1300
From: Don Gould <don@bowenvale.co.nz>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <CB07955B.497B3%fmartin@linkedin.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I really didn't follow to much of this thread, it's all a bit weird with=20
some obvious industry under currents running that I don't follow.
What I will say is that I'm currently involved with exactly this issue=20
and would have to say that it's all just getting sillier by the day.
I've been researching solutions with NAT and double NAT in mind because=20
it's obvious that v4 space is going to become a growing problem.
It's interesting to see the things that break when you use double NAT.
What's also interesting is the growing competitive market place with=20
incumbent providers, who have enough v4 space for their entire market,=20
contracting their retail operations while their retail competitors are=20
growing in size.
I've been working on some very basic projections for my country and=20
expect over the next decade we will see at least 30%, or more, movement=20
in our market.
So where is this going to leave v4 allocations? Will the incumbents=20
protect their retail operations by locking up their v4 space so that=20
smaller competitors can't grow?
Will we all move to v6 to make the problem go away? (Not likely, the=20
level of edge understanding of v6 isn't there, and you lot already had a=20
rant about CPE this week, so I won't go there!)
Will we develop smarter v4 technology and just NAT on NAT... and on NAT?
The only thing that is really clear is the lack of clarity.
D
On 10/12/2011 7:37 a.m., Franck Martin wrote:
> I just had a personal email from a brand new ISP in the Asia-Pacific ar=
ea desperately looking for enough IPv4 to be able to run their business t=
he way they would like=85
>
> This is just a data point.
>
--=20
Don Gould
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