[147481] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Sad IPv4 story?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leigh Porter)
Mon Dec 12 05:04:36 2011
From: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com>
To: "Vitkovsky, Adam" <avitkovsky@emea.att.com>, Eric Parsonage
<eric@eparsonage.com>, "Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:05:02 +0000
In-Reply-To: <D51498F0B6E1EF408AC4D63440BFD6F8C3847EA07A@skbramsx02.emea.att.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vitkovsky, Adam [mailto:avitkovsky@emea.att.com]
> Sent: 12 December 2011 09:19
> To: Eric Parsonage; Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Sad IPv4 story?
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> > and models that doesn't take "we may not get IPv4 space" into account
> and have
> > a contingency plan for that *deserves* to be soundly mocked and
> ridiculed in
> > public.
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> That's right
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> However the original post was concerning a fresh new ISP that can't run
> their business the way they would like
> Maybe they'd like to build an mpls core which right now is not possible
> with only ipv6 at hand
> I'd like to see the business model to build an mpls network with all
> the features we're used to -but solely on ipv6 -I guess the plan would
> be let's wait a couple years till it gets implemented and mature enough
Well really this is pretty much our fault. IPv6 has been on peoples 'back =
burner' for far too long. Additional vendor pressure and pressure at the I=
ETF would have pushed=20things forward far faster had people actually been=
interested in doing so.
As per an earlier post, I am shocked at how I still have vendors coming to=
me with equipment that is nowhere near ready for commercial IPv6 deployme=
nt, it either just does not work, is half baked or is "on the roadmap".
So now we will reap the consequences and it will be at the cost of new mar=
ket entrants (which I am sure will please some people) and perhaps cold ha=
rd cash for those who cannot expand their business or have to 'buy' addres=
s space.
I know a lot of people have been working hard to move IPv6 along both here=
, at NANOG and other events and with their vendors. It's because of those =
people, like Randy perhaps that we actually have what we do now else most =
people would still be stuck with their heads in the sand.
Well, I am sure it'll all be OK in the end...
--
Leigh
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