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Re: OT: Traffic Light Control (was Re: First real-world SCADA attack

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel jaeggli)
Fri Nov 25 15:09:13 2011

Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 12:08:07 -0800
From: Joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
In-Reply-To: <4ECFF44E.5050502@west.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 11/25/11 12:02 , Jay Hennigan wrote:
> On 11/25/11 11:34 AM, Joel jaeggli wrote:
> 
>> Cars generically cause at lot more deaths than faulty traffic
>> controllers 13.2 per 100,000 population in the US annually.
> 
> The cars don't (often) cause them.  The drivers do.  Yes, there are the
> rare mechanical failures but the most likely cause is wetware.  Ditto
> airplane crashes.  A mild example:

while they may well have otherwise been runover by an oxcart in the
absence of automobiles, if they we're behind the wheel of a complex 2
ton machine there would be no accident.

> http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20001212X18632
> 
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