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Re: where was my white knight....

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com)
Tue Nov 8 13:55:29 2011

Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:55:09 +0000
From: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com
To: Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
In-Reply-To: <4EB9796C.9080009@foobar.org>
Cc: bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 06:48:12PM +0000, Nick Hilliard wrote:
> On 08/11/2011 18:14, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >  the answer seems to be NO, it would not have helped and would have actually
> > contributed to network instability with large numbers of validation requests
> > sent to the sidr/ca nodes...
> 
> i'm curious about sidr cold bootup, specifically when you are attempting to
> validate prefixes from an rpki CA or cache to which you do not necessarily
> have network connectivity because your igp is not yet fully up.  The
> phrases "layering violation" and "chicken and egg" come to mind.
> 
> Nick

	yeah...there is that.

/bill


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