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Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Thu Oct 13 11:58:15 2011

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaagKv-w3KmbeW9ZdD+ZK0CXA5FQDmTXR+t0oF5va5imyA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:56:29 -0400
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> It's possible that the 'encryption' comment from Jamie is really about
> encrypting the actual device... which I believe Android[0] will do, I
> don't know if idevices do though.

I think the big problem is that rev1 of iDevice did not include =
on-device crypto, and there was a case where they also 'lied' about =
their crypto capability to the servers.

Rebuilding this trust can take some time.  I do expect that with the =
iMessage stuff that was released yesterday (SMS/MMSoIP to email/phone#) =
many more companies will shift to using that instead as the value of BBM =
is decreased.

I also wonder what the impact of iMessage and others will be on places =
like hotel networks as the devices camp out longer/more often on the =
wifi, etc.  We observed the impact to a hotel of the NANOG crowd this =
week (i wonder if there will be lessons learned on the part of lodgenet, =
etc?)

I know personally I've observed the attwifi ssid expanding to more =
places (including hilton branded properties) in the past 6 months to =
offload cellular data.

- Jared=


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