[144720] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cameron Byrne)
Sat Sep 17 13:52:05 2011
In-Reply-To: <m2iporawy0.wl%randy@psg.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 10:51:08 -0700
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 17, 2011 10:41 AM, "Randy Bush" <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> As an ISP, ARIN will not give you any space if you are new. You
> >>>> have to already have an equivalent amount of space from another
> >>>> provider.
> >>> does arin *really* still have that amazing barrier to market
> >>> entry?
> >> Yes. If you want PI space, you have to start off with PA space,
> >> utilize it, and then apply for PI space and an AS #, with contracts
> >> demonstrating your intention to multihome. Then, you have to
> >> *migrate* off the PA space and surrender it back to the 'owner'. You
> >> cannot get further PI allocations until you've done this.
> > The ARIN community is easily it's own worst enemy.
>
> the arin policy weenie industry is one of the internet's worst enemies
>
> randy
>
+1
I will echo my displeasure with the idea that you can only get a lot if you
already have a lot. This mess is enough to make cgn look appealing...
One more reason we can all do ourselves a favor by moving to ipv6, remove
the number scarcity issue and associated baggage of begging for numbers
Cb
