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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Sat Sep 17 13:41:16 2011

Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 19:41:11 +0200
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
In-Reply-To: <4E74D3A9.9070305@bogus.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

>>>> As an ISP, ARIN will not give you any space if you are new. You
>>>> have to already have an equivalent amount of space from another
>>>> provider.
>>> does arin *really* still have that amazing barrier to market
>>> entry?
>> Yes.  If you want PI space, you have to start off with PA space,
>> utilize it, and then apply for PI space and an AS #, with contracts
>> demonstrating your intention to multihome.  Then, you have to
>> *migrate* off the PA space and surrender it back to the 'owner'.  You
>> cannot get further PI allocations until you've done this.
> The ARIN community is easily it's own worst enemy.

the arin policy weenie industry is one of the internet's worst enemies

randy


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