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Re: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Thu Aug 18 20:08:26 2011

From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:07:47 +0000
In-Reply-To: <3A807C2C-9DD2-4A40-B11E-8583F2C562B6@delong.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 19/08/2011, at 4:18 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

It'd really suck for end users to start actively avoiding IPv6 connectivity=
 because it keeps breaking and for organisations that have active AAAA reco=
rds to break peoples connectivity to their resources.



+1 -- I'm all for publishing AAAA records as everyone knows, but, if you pu=
blish AAAA records for a consumer facing service, please support and monito=
r that service with a similar level to what you do for your IPv4 versions o=
f the service.

The coming years are going to be difficult enough for end-users without add=
ing unnecessary anti-IPv6 sentiments to the mix.

Owen

+1 to Owen's comment.

I'd also add some more comments:

A lot of eyeballs that have v6 right now are the people with a lot of clue.=
  Do you want these people, who'll often be buying or recommending your ser=
vices to rate your ability to deliver as a fail?  Our experience with IPv6 =
consumer broadband has been that the early adopters are the people who, wel=
l, goto IETF meetings, follow standards and ask the bloody hard questions.

Even given the Happy Eyeballs (Did Hurricane PAY for it to be abbrievated a=
s HE?? :-) ) most end users prefer IPv6 over IPv4.  Deeply this means there=
 is a tendency for v6 traffic to grow and be more important to connectivity=
 than you may imagine.  The tipping point for IPv6 traffic being dominant I=
 suspect is going to be a lower threshold of take up than people might expe=
ct.   Consider this when thinking about the level of thought you give to IP=
v6 infrastructure and PPS rates.

MMC

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