[143817] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Aug 18 14:51:40 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <D181DDABABE57E4DB72FEE00331478643976AA@EALPO1.ukbroadband.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 11:48:50 -0700
To: Leigh Porter <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Aug 18, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnkblk@iname.com]
>> Sent: 18 August 2011 06:36
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Subject: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been
>> down for 10 days
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>> The IPv6 version of www.qwest.com has been down for 10 days. Wget
>> shows a
>> 301 to www.centurylink.com, but that also fails. Emails to the nocs =
at
>> both
>> companies have gone unanswered. Unless HE is deployed in a web
>> browser,
>> this behavior leads to a bad end-user experience.
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>> If anyone can prod either of these two companies that would be much
>> appreciated.
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>> Frank
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> It seems that any IPv6 efforts by organisations are best effort at =
most with of course some notable exceptions who seem to offer a really =
very good service (HE for example). It's starting to get to a point now, =
I think, that some end users have IPv6 (Andrews and Arnold have offered =
IPv6 for years) and issues such as these are just going to start to give =
IPv6 a bad name in the eyes of consumers.
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> It'd really suck for end users to start actively avoiding IPv6 =
connectivity because it keeps breaking and for organisations that have =
active AAAA records to break peoples connectivity to their resources.
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>=20
+1 -- I'm all for publishing AAAA records as everyone knows, but, if you =
publish AAAA records for a consumer facing service, please support and =
monitor that service with a similar level to what you do for your IPv4 =
versions of the service.
The coming years are going to be difficult enough for end-users without =
adding unnecessary anti-IPv6 sentiments to the mix.
Owen
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