[143250] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Wed Aug 3 21:12:50 2011
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 01:12:04 +0000
In-Reply-To: <17340112.373.1312379751660.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 03/08/2011, at 11:25 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>>> Europe is a little odd in that way, especially DE and NO in that there
>>> seems to be this weird FUD running around claiming that static addresse=
s
>>> are in some way more antithetical to privacy.
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>> Yes, I agree. I know people who choose provider based on the availabilit=
y
>> of static addresses, I know very few who avoid static address ISPs becau=
se
>> of this fact.
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>> FUD indeed.
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> You guys aren't *near* paranoid enough. :-)
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> If the ISP=20
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> a) Assigns dynamic addresses to customers, and
> b) changes those IPs on a relatively short scale (days)
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> then=20
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> c) outside parties *who are not the ISP or an LEO* will have a=20
> relatively harder time tying together two visits solely by the IP=20
> address.
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> While this isn't "privacy", per se, that "making harder" is at least
> somewhat useful to a client in reducing the odds that such non-ISP/LEO
> parties will be unable to tie their visits, assuming they've controlled
> the items they *can* control (cookies, flash cookies, etc).
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We've gone with static /56 v6 ranges for customers. Why? Customers told =
us they wanted address stability. Pretty much more than anything else. =
Admittedly the people who opt'ed into the trial part are not typical custom=
ers, but it's something they were all fairly adamant about.
We're small globally, but we're the 5th largest broadband provider in Austr=
alia and we've actually gone and delivered IPv6 natively to our broadband c=
ustomer base (as well as corporate and other clients). We also sell only v=
6 capable ADSL CPE (ie. have actual firmware that works with dual stack bro=
adband.=20
MMC=
