[143219] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Aug 3 03:18:33 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20110803045232.AB802126752E@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 00:14:38 -0700
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 9:52 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>=20
> In message =
<CAJvB4tnPS4CsJSf37sc4a4mqOx0UuWKvPNiEcoFqaLXOwk+VmA@mail.gmail.com>
> , Blake Dunlap writes:
>> Or, alternately, don't care what your printer's ridiculously long =
IPv6 IP is
>> at this moment, (ULA/GUA/assigned: it really doesn't matter) and use =
mdns
>> like normal people. Otherwise we're ignoring the forest for the =
trees, I
>> don't expect to try to explain to my grandma how to type in
>> 2001:45ea:344b:dead:beef::27 and/or remember it, when "printer1" will =
do.
>>=20
>> This just makes me think of this: http://bash.org/?14258
>>=20
>> If we need a way to mdns to work across subnet boundries in a single
>> administrative domain, so be it. If we need a better mdns, lets make =
that
>> too, but we *really* need to get away from direct IPs in general.
>=20
> You are totally missing the point which is that the printer has a
> *routable* address when the home, with possibly multiple subnets,
> is disconnected or has never connected to the global network.
>=20
> link-locals are insufficient for a routed home.
>=20
I get that and I have that with GUA without resorting to ULA.
Owen
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