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Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Aug 2 22:18:27 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CADVasu6FXkyA=kdSXFwTa+AxKeM+m7_f0A6C-ATWtVpgWUaidA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 19:11:39 -0700
To: james machado <hvgeekwtrvl@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


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On Aug 2, 2011, at 6:18 PM, james machado wrote:

>> I would argue that I am not an "abnormal" household by any definition =
other than
>> my internet access and that even by that definition, I am not =
particularly abnormal
>> where I live.
>>=20
>=20
> your based out of san jose, there might not be any other area like
> that in the U.S. as far as connectivity and concentration of i.t.
> savy.  there might be 10 cities in the U.S. with the same
> infrastructure and availability as you have accessible.  there are not
> 50.  while not abnormal where you live, it is abnormal to the rest of
> the country.
>=20

Sir, if that is true, then it is a truly sad state of affairs in the =
U.S. For the
connectivity situation in San Jose for residential is rather poor in =
most
areas with the only options being relatively low bandwidth DSL and
CMTS. The CMTS is now halfway decent (less than 2 years ago, it
was largely poor as well). There is not a PON system to be had in
most of San Jose and the WISP situation is similarly dismal.

In my neighborhood, I have about the best connectivity that money can
buy short of installing a fiber node and paying for a DS-3 or better
at business rates on a monthly basis and waiting for a rather extensive
build-out that may involve a multi-million dollar installation charge.

That's 50mbps/7mbps on the CMTS (I asked, the higher tier products
are not to be had where I live), and the 1.5mbps/384kbps DSL.

>=20
>> There are many people I know of with much more expensive and =
elaborate
>> internet connectivity to their houses than what I have within 30 =
miles of me.
>>=20
>> While I don't think I represent the typical residential ISP customer, =
I do think that
>> the typical customer will eventually learn what static addressing is =
and will want
>> it for a variety of reasons.
>>=20
>> Owen
>=20
> scott's user base is more typical than what you can find in your
> neighborhood.  i am sure some of the same users live within 30 miles
> of you too but you,i, scott, or anybody else on this list can not be
> considered normal in this respect.
>=20

The majority of the US population has access to at least cable (CMTS)
and DSL.

Claiming otherwise is, well, specious.

Owen


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