[143206] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: dynamic or static IPv6 prefixes to residential customers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Aug 2 20:17:13 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CADVasu78RcxcMktZbzwer3rXmoDW5dDjdP2XNQjXAmZ38oxwVg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:14:26 -0700
To: james machado <hvgeekwtrvl@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On Aug 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, james machado wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On Aug 2, 2011, at 2:42 PM, james machado wrote:
>>=20
>>>>> Lets look at some issues here.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> 1) it's unlikely that a "normal" household with 2.5 kids and a =
dog/cat
>>>>> will be able to qualify for their own end user assignment from =
ARIN.
>>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Interesting...
>>>>=20
>>>> I have a "normal household".
>>>> I lack 2.5 kids and have no dog or cat.
>>>>=20
>>>> I have my own ARIN assignment.
>>>>=20
>>>> Are you saying that the 2.5 kids and the dog/cat would disqualify =
them? I can't
>>>> find such a statement in ARIN policy.
>>>>=20
>>>> Are you saying that a household that multihomes is abnormal? =
Perhaps today,
>>>> but, not necessarily so in the future.
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Yes I am saying a household that mulithomes is abnormal and with
>>> today's and contracted monopolies I expect that to continue. You =
are
>>> not a normal household in that 1) you multihome 2) you are willing =
to
>>> pay $1500+ US a year for your own AS, IP assignments
>>=20
>> while I don't disagree with the assertion that this is unrealistic =
the annual fee is $100 per org-id for direct assignments.
>=20
>=20
> sorry was unclear - I was guessing $1500+ for ASnumer + IP Assignments
> but not counting ISP costs for a year. Looks like ARIN is charging
> about $1250 per year for a new IPv6 assignment and the AS yearly cost
> is rolled into that. Granted ISP costs will probably be in the
> ballpark of $150 per month for 2 consumer grade connections and more
> for business or better connections.
>=20
> James
No, you still have it wrong.
There is a one-time charge of $500 for your ASN and $1250 for your /48.
After that, it is just $100/year, period.
The ISP costs do not have to be significantly more than what you already
pay for commodity access. My ISP costs total roughly $140/month, but, =
for
that I am subscribing to 50Mbps down and 7Mbps up and usually get
about 70Mbps down and close to 10Mbps up as well as a slower DSL
circuit for backup.
Yes, it's more than $20/month, but, decent business class service
from one provider is going to be around $60/month or more. So, if you
double that ($120), you're not far off from what I'm paying and for the
small incremental cost, I'm getting quite a bit more.
Owen
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