[141438] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Jun 8 09:05:43 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinojz-3kz7PEcb0Rgx599po-agwtd9gubOrd111RJ4xQg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2011 06:04:26 -0700
To: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 8, 2011, at 5:47 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:09 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>>=20
>> On Jun 7, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Martin Millnert wrote:
>>=20
>>> Owen,
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> =
wrote:
>>>> LSN is required when access providers come across the following two
>>>> combined constraints:
>>>>=20
>>>> 1. No more IPv4 addresses to give to customers.
>>>> 2. No ability to deploy those customers on IPv6.
>>>=20
>>> 2 has little bearing on need of LSN to access v4. Insufficient =
amount
>>> of IPv4 addresses =3D> LSN required.
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>> Martin
>>=20
>> No, if you have the option of deploying the customers on IPv6, you =
don't
>> need LSN.
>>=20
>> The problem is that until the vast majority of content is dual-stack, =
you can't
>> deploy customers on IPv6 without IPv4.
>>=20
>>=20
>=20
> cough cough NAT64/DNS64 ...
Doesn't solve the problem unless your users are all on cell-phone =
browsers
that don't do a lot of the things most users do with real internet =
connections.
Owen
