[139008] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nortel, in bankruptcy, sells IPv4 address block for $7.5 million
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Thu Mar 24 23:34:11 2011
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik3BGxaJnDv+Rf_i-KL7X+WZ1uzvxBub9g+pL0b@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:34:06 -0400
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Cc: John Curran <jcurran@arin.net>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 24, 2011, at 11:15 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at> =
wrote:
>> On 3/24/2011 7:59 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
>>> Because that's what IP addresses are. Totally worthless unless =
community
>>> participants voluntarily route traffic for those IPs to the =
assignee.
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>> Would de-peer with Microsoft (or turn down a transit contract from =
them)
>> just because they wanted to announce some Nortel address space?
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> Microsoft would likely be able to find someone who would not turn them
> down for transit.
>=20
>> Would ARIN really erase the Nortel entry and move these addresses to =
the
>> free pool if Microsoft doesn't play along with one of the transfer =
policies?
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> Unknown. I would expect ARIN to erase entries, if the situation =
exists
> where RIR policy requires that, or to refrain from effecting the
> transfer in the DB, unless that transfer requested is valid under =
policy and
> and the request is made correctly with all normal requirements met.
>=20
>> Would you announce addresses someone had just obtained from ARIN that =
were
>> already being announced by Microsoft?
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> Most certainly, some networks would, if assigned space in that block,
> probably without noticing Microsoft's announcement.
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It that the right question ? I am sure some networks would also continue =
to use Microsoft's announcements in this scenario. So, it would be a =
mess.=20
So, I think that the right question is something more like :=20
If ARIN reassigned the space, and Microsoft continued to announce it =
anyway, would either announcing entity be have enough of a critical mass
that the conflict wouldn't matter to it ?=20
I would submit that any address assignments with continual major =
operational issues arising from assignment conflicts would not be very =
attractive. =20
I also don't think that that would be good for the Internet.=20
Regards
Marshall=20
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> --
> -JH
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