[139055] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Nortel, in bankruptcy, sells IPv4 address block for $7.5 million
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael DeMan)
Fri Mar 25 21:55:42 2011
From: Michael DeMan <nanog@deman.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:54:56 -0700
In-Reply-To: <9592CE01-31D4-4866-934B-A84DF5E1665D@delong.com>
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mar 25, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
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> On Mar 24, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
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>>>>> They can only get them _at all_ if they can document need. All
>>>>> receipt of address space, whether from the free-pool or through a
>>>>> transfer, is needs-based. Anything else would be removing a =
critical
>>>>> resource from use.
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canute
>>> Thank you Randy. Give Canute a community-developed set of marching
>>> orders, and make the ocean a little more pliable and you might have=20=
>>> something there.
>>=20
>> at some point, the arin policy wonk weenies will face reality. or =
not.
>> it really makes little difference. =20
>>=20
>> i don't particularly like the reality either, but i find it easier =
and
>> more productive to align my actions and how i spend my time. not a =
lot
>> of high paying jobs pushing water uphill.
>>=20
>> randy
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> At some point we will see which reality actually pans out. Both the =
perspective
> of we "ARIN Policy wonk weenies" as Randy so kindly calls us, and, =
Randy's
> perspective are speculations about future events. I think both are =
probably equally
> based in reality based on different sets of experiences.
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> Since my reality has the potential to preserve many good aspects of =
the internet,
> I hope it turns out that Randy is the one who is wrong.
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> Owen
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Or possibly, if we can not sort this on our own and set a good precedent =
(for ARIN and the other registries as well) that we can sort this out =
ourselves in a way that is agreeable and beneficial to all stakeholders =
- we will just be adding another piece of lumber onto the ready-to-light =
bonfire that government needs to step in somehow?
=20
- Mike
