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Re: Nortel, in bankruptcy, sells IPv4 address block for $7.5 million

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 24 12:57:56 2011

In-Reply-To: <667a9870-5a8c-4344-991c-60ac024d3dd5@blur>
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:54:45 -0500
To: Aaron Wendel <aaron@wholesaleinternet.net>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Actually ARIN rules don't say anything about bankruptcy. However, in the eve=
nt that
the organization ceases to exist and there is no successor organization taki=
ng over
the network infrastructure under an 8.2 transfer, yes, the resources would r=
evert to
ARIN.

The only other (legitimate) possibility is a section 8.3 transfer (which wou=
ld require
approval by ARIN also).

In both an 8.2 and an 8.3 transfer, the recipient organization has to show j=
ustified need.
The collection of blocks in question does not sound like it would be permitt=
ed under 8.3,
so, perhaps Micr0$0ft is also acquiring part of Nortel's operations that are=
 using those
addresses as well.

Owen


Sent from my iPad

On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:27 AM, "Aaron Wendel"<aaron@wholesaleinternet.net> wro=
te:

> That's a good question.  Maybe they can't qualify under Arin rules.  Anoth=
er question will be: how is Arin going to handle it?
>=20
> Im pretty sure that the RSA says that in the event of bankruptcy ips rever=
t to the Arin pool.  I understand that these were legacy addresses but......=
.
>=20
> Aaron
>=20
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>=20
> -----Original message-----
> From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 14:08:21 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: Nortel, in bankruptcy, sells IPv4 address block for $7.5 mill=
ion
>=20
> In a message written on Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:32:21AM -0400, Bret Clark w=
rote:
>> Why would Microsoft need this many IP's? I could see the benefitingservic=
e providers much more.
>=20
> I think the more interesting question is why would Microsoft pay
> $7.5 million for something they can, at least for the moment, get
> for free.
>=20
> --=20
>      Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
>       PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
>=20


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